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What's the future of the Competitive Gaming Mouse Industry?
We have so many great gaming mice on the market these days, but they're starting to get a bit "safe" and boring, because the formula has basically been perfected for ... well, sales. It's hard to get excited, but it's never been easier to give recommendations. So where to now? What's the next step?
Just wanted to give some thoughts on the industry and where it needs to go next, as well as some news on what I've been up to and what's to come. I'll have some announcements and updates over the next year (it's a long process), so stay tuned, I don't know how much time I'll have for content but will try to make more videos.
Here are the links mentioned in the video for my books, pad and mice.
My mouse design (MZ1): cherryxtrfy.com/mice/mz1-wireless/
My mouse pad (GPZ1): cherryxtrfy.com/xtrfy-gpz1-zys-damage
My book series: theheroesfall.com/ (modern fantasy novels set in World War 4)
My website links:
Top Mice - www.rocketjumpninja.com/top-mice
Mouse Search - www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search
MWAVE Australian affiliate link: bit.ly/rocketjumpninjamwave
You can buy using my Amazon Affiliate links at these locations:
Amazon USA amzn.to/29OLzNY
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Amazon Germany amzn.to/29vek0X
Amazon Canada amzn.to/2aRgdTd
Amazon Italy amzn.to/2R6AprN
If you're buying anything from eBay US, you can use my affiliate link:
eBay.com: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_id=114&ipn=icep&toolid=20004&campid=5338214921&mpre=www.ebay.com
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Patreon: www.patreon.com/RocketJumpNinja
Twitch Streaming: www.twitch.tv/rocketjumpninja
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Відео

Testing the Pulsar Gaming Sleeve range, which is right for you? Experience Guide
Переглядів 12 тис.4 місяці тому
During a hot summer, I realized I needed something under my arm to stop it from sticking to the desk, so I just put a cloth under it. That was super awkward and kept falling, so I googled sleeves and found some on eBay. Now all these years later, finally got some proper gaming sleeves... and while the others were good, these are definitely better. Don't know if there are even better out there, ...
Quake 6 - Could it become mainstream online again? Thoughts on mulitplayer and modes
Переглядів 39 тис.5 місяців тому
I've been playing Quakes since 1998, 26 years ... you know a game is special when you can still have fun after all that time. The fans that have stuck with it, love it in a way that they just can't enjoy other games. No matter how many games I try, I always go back to Quake. It's been one of constants in my life. But if the game is that great, why are so few people playing it? That's what I wan...
Mouse Comparisons: Fnatic Thorn, Pulsar Xlite V3, Xtrfy M8, Fantech Helios, Endgame Gear OP1we
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Here's a comparison between 5 great mice to hopefully help you choose what's going to be right for you. Mice are so good these days, I think many of us are choosing just based on shape and weight, plus some extra features. Let me know in the comments what you think! And which mouse or mice are catching your eye out of the Fnatic Thorn, Pulsar Xlite V3, Xtrfy M8 Wireless, Fantech Helios II and E...
Let's talk mouse weight, feet and hard mouse pads for aiming | feat. SKYPAD Glass Pad 3.0
Переглядів 26 тис.6 місяців тому
What a difference pad, feet and weight make to aim... definitely more to explore on this topic, so after talking with a friend (Code0r), I wanted to get this conversation going a bit more. So if you can comment below, answers these questions and let us know your experience! Current Mouse: Current Pad: Current Feet: (Default or other?) Your weight preference: And what do you think the ideal bala...
How I improved my tracking accuracy by ~10 percent (not clickbait and not what you think)
Переглядів 22 тис.6 місяців тому
Tracking accuracy hasn't been my strong point in games, mainly because I've played Quake for most of that time and I'm terrible with recoil when I do play a different game. Plus I get distracted by flashing lights so in a game like Apex, I literally cannot see where I'm meant to be aiming, but if they removed those things, I'm sure I could track well there too! But this video is mostly about Qu...
Finalmouse UltralightX Review | With recommendations for all 3 sizes and grip tips
Переглядів 94 тис.7 місяців тому
Update: To be clear, the limbo jumps don't happen too much with the gold version, but do on the blue, so after speaking with others and getting more feedback, seems it's a quality control issue on the blue, but the scroll is at normal levels for limbo jumps on the gold. Every wheel will have them from time to time, just how it is. I was worried because I had heaps on the blue copy, but it makes...
Are gaming pens the future instead of mice? Drawing tablet to reach Immortal in Valorant ft. Kariyu
Переглядів 246 тис.8 місяців тому
Imagine playing a first person shooter with a pen and tablet combo, usually used for graphic design (and osu! these days), now imagine actually reaching Immortal rank in Valorant with it. That's what Kariyu managed to do, so I jumped on a call with him to talk about what it could mean for the future of gaming. I started this channel because I realized I could aim better with smaller mice and wa...
Pulsar X2V2 and X2H Review (1 and 2) | Light weight wireless gaming mice
Переглядів 59 тис.8 місяців тому
Some light weight wireless, top tier gaming mice from Pulsar, great to see. Size 1 actually suits me pretty well (18x9cm hands) so I didn't have any trouble aiming with them. No adjustment period either, very used to this kind of design already, but as always, if they're a new size/shape, be sure to give them about 2 to 3 weeks for your hand to settle. That said, these are pretty standard shape...
Pwnage StormBreaker Gaming Mouse Review (basically a magnesium wireless Zowie EC2)
Переглядів 54 тис.9 місяців тому
If you want a top tier light weight wireless mouse, basically the shape of the Zowie EC2, this is definitely worth a look. Pwnage has been around for a long while now, I've tried their mice before and they've been good, but this one seems a lot better (build, features, etc). Plus it's like the Finalmouse Starlights, which are amazing. Expensive, but if you want special mice like this, you have ...
How To Get Good - Don't be the goal... be your best
Переглядів 11 тис.9 місяців тому
My Official Book Series Website: theheroesfall.com/ Perfection is impossible, that is why the journey is infinite. I've found it's good to set that goal, but not to become it (don't define yourself like that). When it comes to creative works, it's really daunting. It's so hard to create anything, much easier to destroy or just criticize someone else's work. Not to say the criticism isn't valid,...
Endgame Gear XM2we Update Review (basically a wireless XM1)
Переглядів 38 тис.10 місяців тому
The XM1 was one of my favourite mice, used to be underrated, now seems to be getting some good attention. Great shape, great mouse. And the XM2we seems to be the updated, wireless version of it (I haven't tested all the other versions of the XM1, so this is a return for me). Didn't go in depth on buttons and all that, this is an "in use" review, so just tested it mostly in game. If you want the...
QUAKE II Remastered: A quick look + Capture The Flag and using custom maps
Переглядів 25 тис.10 місяців тому
Quake II gets an enhanced version, like the original Quake. This video is just to take a quick look at it so you know what to expect, if you want to buy it. As a Quake 2 CTF player, that's what I really wanted to test, but it's cool that the campaigns are in there too, along with a new one. For mods though, use this folder: C:\Users\%USERPROFILE%\Saved Games\Nightdive Studios\Quake II The folde...
Vaxee XE Wireless and NP-01S Wireless Quick Review (Familiar Shapes)
Переглядів 37 тис.10 місяців тому
Not too in depth on this video because the shapes are pretty known at this stage, you can easily watch the full in depth reviews of the shapes of either the Logitech G Pro Wireless or the NP-01S Wired (size guide and shape analysis): ua-cam.com/video/xAFiWdR_Hcw/v-deo.html Anyway, some great quality mice from Vaxee as usual, reminiscent of the Zowie days when the team worked there, but with som...
Lamzu Atlantis Mini and V2 Review (Great shape, low weight, solid wireless gaming mice)
Переглядів 72 тис.11 місяців тому
Some great really light weight wireless mice from Lamzu, had a lot of fun with these ... very similar shape to Endgame Gear XM1, so I'd say they're based on it, but they've got some differences and feel different too. Worth a look, especially for claw grip I think? Something about the shape fits well with it, as said in the video. Didn't have any issues while playing, so seems their wireless te...
HyperX Haste 2 Review (Unfortunately had issues with the wireless)
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HyperX Haste 2 Review (Unfortunately had issues with the wireless)
Is Aim Assist overpowered on controllers? FPS Veteran Thoughts | feat. BulletL (Apex Legends Pro)
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Is Aim Assist overpowered on controllers? FPS Veteran Thoughts | feat. BulletL (Apex Legends Pro)
Good To Great - What are your breaking points?
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Good To Great - What are your breaking points?
Ninjutso Sora 47g Wireless Gaming Mouse Review
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Ninjutso Sora 47g Wireless Gaming Mouse Review
Razer Viper V2 Pro Update Review with Size Guide and 4k Dongle Tip
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Razer Viper V2 Pro Update Review with Size Guide and 4k Dongle Tip
Best sling weapon with Ballistic | Best Loadout | Apex Legends Tips
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Best sling weapon with Ballistic | Best Loadout | Apex Legends Tips
Razer DeathAdder V3 Pro 4000hz Wireless and Wired 8000hz VS DA V2 Comparison Review
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Razer DeathAdder V3 Pro 4000hz Wireless and Wired 8000hz VS DA V2 Comparison Review
How I clean my computer desks / gaming set-ups (Cleaning Tips)
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How I clean my computer desks / gaming set-ups (Cleaning Tips)
Smaller Mouse Challenge RESULTS! feat. Kile from Too Much Tech, InaNathalie and f0rest
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Smaller Mouse Challenge RESULTS! feat. Kile from Too Much Tech, InaNathalie and f0rest
360Hz VS 360Hz DyAc: Best gaming monitor for pro and competitive players? | BenQ Zowie XL2566K
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360Hz VS 360Hz DyAc: Best gaming monitor for pro and competitive players? | BenQ Zowie XL2566K
Ultrawide for competitive gaming? Corsair XENEON Flex 45" 240Hz Review
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Ultrawide for competitive gaming? Corsair XENEON Flex 45" 240Hz Review
SMALLER GAMING MOUSE CHALLENGE | feat. Too Much Tech - Kile
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SMALLER GAMING MOUSE CHALLENGE | feat. Too Much Tech - Kile
3 reasons why we push ourselves in competitive games | Good To Great
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3 reasons why we push ourselves in competitive games | Good To Great
Watch this before buying loot boxes in Apex Legends | 100 packs opening thoughts
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Watch this before buying loot boxes in Apex Legends | 100 packs opening thoughts
Using a foot pedal in First Person Shooters: Leaning / Other | feat. Elgato Stream Deck Pedal
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Using a foot pedal in First Person Shooters: Leaning / Other | feat. Elgato Stream Deck Pedal

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @YoloVib3s
    @YoloVib3s 2 години тому

    I been rocking the G pro X & it has ruined heavy mice for me. I just can't use anything over like 70g anymore. However I need logitech to release an XL size for people with bear paws for hands.

  • @miaowzerz
    @miaowzerz 13 годин тому

    my mz1 started double clicking how should i fix this?

  • @GreatBeef97
    @GreatBeef97 День тому

    Doesnt look like this is available or shown in Amazon Canada now. Just the wired version 😢

    • @RocketJumpNinja
      @RocketJumpNinja 13 годин тому

      Yeah it's out of stock in a few places, I think they're between batches... waiting on more info.

    • @GreatBeef97
      @GreatBeef97 13 годин тому

      @@RocketJumpNinja no problem, thanks for the update!!

  • @or6060
    @or6060 2 дні тому

    CTF is a great mode that you don't really see these days. the problem is just doing it right. tribes pulls it off i think, because it works in concert with high mobility. tf2 fumbles it with the dropped flag timer & bad maps. quake champions does it the worst of any game i've ever played, which really sucks. like you said deathmatch is a pretty bad mode, i'd play quake champions of the CTF was good. i used to play instagib but they made it a temporary mode so when it went away i did too.

  • @EfeZeibek
    @EfeZeibek 2 дні тому

    lifesaver tuto. thank you so much.

  • @windscape8670
    @windscape8670 4 дні тому

    what bothers me is that we need new shapes but my favorite design, the MX518, was canceled. It was an acquired taste and people said it was an outdated shape, but apparently it didn't make enough sales and now its canned, and my mx518 still has the same issues as older mx518s, g400s, etc, with the cable disconnecting. I can't nab a new one for cheap anymore, and wish I did. If companies can't make mice technically better they should at least work on quality and reliability as you mentioned.

  • @Ace-gn3gn
    @Ace-gn3gn 4 дні тому

    i just ordred the xl2540 240hz no dyac i hope i made a good choice becuz it was a good price

  • @cantsgamingph3286
    @cantsgamingph3286 4 дні тому

    Can it do Alt + Keys combination? Alt + 1 for example.

  • @XSFlanger
    @XSFlanger 5 днів тому

    I've settled with Sora v2 so far. I don't really enjoy the shape 100%, but it's much better than Viper V2 pro (modded 48gr) for my hands. Going to wait for ULX mice to drop price a bit and then try small or medium size as well.

  • @mlgpika6363
    @mlgpika6363 5 днів тому

    I would love to see what you would think of the zowie u2

  • @thesilentwalker069
    @thesilentwalker069 6 днів тому

    I'm still playing qc and using my rival 600 and it's getting worn out , so is the razer v2 pro good for me in qc ?

    • @RocketJumpNinja
      @RocketJumpNinja 5 днів тому

      DeathAdder V3 Pro would be closer to the Rival 600 shape wise...

    • @thesilentwalker069
      @thesilentwalker069 5 днів тому

      @@RocketJumpNinja we only got deathadder V2 pro , razer viper v2 pro and RAZER DEATHADDER V3 PRO sorry caps , copy pasted , these are the the mouses i have in mind atm and got these in Bangladesh as well , tho the D.A v3 pro is hard to find at times , any suggestions on these ones ? for qc .

  • @elzora.
    @elzora. 6 днів тому

    Anchored Angl Palm Relaxed Wheel Saparated

  • @n3o717
    @n3o717 6 днів тому

    Been gaming for good number of years as well, my aim has come back recently a good amount, Xtrfy MZ1 was game changer (to my shock), and at first, it was hard to keep with it getting used to shape and design. Great video and solid information.

  • @ajaxkun2324
    @ajaxkun2324 6 днів тому

    Short and it worked perfectly for a cheap ruuber one I bought on Amazon 2+ years ago and never washed since then since with my older mousepad I tried to wash it serveral times but it'd always still be a bit dirty, Glad I found actual advice that worked in a fraction of the time

  • @ChronicalV
    @ChronicalV 6 днів тому

    In apex there is less reason to have independent forward/backward because of the slower accel and also slower strafe speed. The change in velocity moving right vs forward+right can throw off mnk players but against controllers it's worse because of 0ms RAA adjusting to your speed and giving them more leeway. Altho I am happy to be proven wrong. Besides the tactical, there arent any other buttons you need to have super independent since most of them are not held buttons but press. I would like you to try default binds and see what things you find cause problems besides movement, tactical and heals.

  • @grasshopper-ln9us
    @grasshopper-ln9us 7 днів тому

    I played the fuck out of quake 4 when I was a teenager.beating the game on the general difficulty was almost impossible

  • @arnatntk1539
    @arnatntk1539 7 днів тому

    Bought mine a year ago. I have a similar problem where the mouse would just stop working but mine occurs only when I turn on the mouse. The mouse wouldn't connect to the dongle (Windows and Hyperx software recognize the dongle but says the mouse isn't turned on.) I disassembled the mouse and loosened the screw holding the PCB to the frame of the mouse, it works just fine. Another problem I have is the scroll wheel jumps. No matter how much I clean the contact, the problem comes back after about a week. Would not recommend HyperX, and never buying HyperX again.

  • @jirist4196
    @jirist4196 7 днів тому

    EDIT: I found myself my comment redundant. There are many videos about this topic going really deep. eg. skeleblood

  • @literallyalois2966
    @literallyalois2966 8 днів тому

    I got a 7200 Dpi Naxido Rgb Nd-m816 Usb and this thing has got the loudest rattle ever lmao, but it does say "extra weight" to the mouse, so it might just be that.

  • @billgrant7262
    @billgrant7262 8 днів тому

    Do you have any video or section or explanation about the pros and cons of wireless?

  • @Deathkvlt696
    @Deathkvlt696 8 днів тому

    This shit sucks hard.

  • @dtester
    @dtester 8 днів тому

    Some people don't know how heavier mice with adjustable weights were a thing back in the day. Heavy mice are not that crazy with good glide on a hard pad with good feet. Hard pads were the only good pads at the peak of the heavy mice era. I noticed that lighter mice got popular around the same time quality soft pads started to become an option.

  • @user-nq2oz8tf2l
    @user-nq2oz8tf2l 9 днів тому

    All the people all these years telling KBM players to seethe were projecting. They want to keep their unfair advantages and the game to hand them wins. Proof is that they refuse to let KBM play solely with each other, but Controllers are allowed to. Bunch of losers.

  • @samdeur
    @samdeur 10 днів тому

    I just bought a second one for backup it’s on sale for €25 +€6 shipping so €31 total. It’s still the only non software mouse that is light and with all the hardware buttons it’s epic couldn’t resist now we have 3 of them in house one for me one for my wife and one backup

  • @billgrant7262
    @billgrant7262 10 днів тому

    How am i supposed to measure hand size..?? where does the measurement start?

    • @RocketJumpNinja
      @RocketJumpNinja 10 днів тому

      I explained in this video... time stamped it for you: ua-cam.com/video/QVI3mepUHuE/v-deo.htmlsi=bJ1llHZO65aqt7-3&t=15

  • @Poxle.
    @Poxle. 10 днів тому

    Letss gooo Kariu representing the osu community

  • @TheDjsBass
    @TheDjsBass 10 днів тому

    Yeah, I just realized that I was shooting myself in the foot, using the cs2 g hub profile yesterday I just tested other games profiles and on some I have more control with the same dpi, I assume it's a higher lod. The rainbow six profile makes my aim much better. Seems like for me a higher/different lod than cs2/desktop profiles is better.

  • @nerocladius4319
    @nerocladius4319 11 днів тому

    Don't see the viper v3 pro on the list 😭 Best of luck on your future projects 🍀

    • @RocketJumpNinja
      @RocketJumpNinja 10 днів тому

      Just finished testing the Viper V3 Pro, only got it a couple of weeks ago! I'll get it on there asap.

  • @guitarclips9344
    @guitarclips9344 11 днів тому

    Just wanted to give my 2 cents on the mice from someone with 20x10cm hands. I was able to try the 1 and 2 sizes for both the X2V2 and X2H before buying. Coming from a Hyperx Pulsefire Haste V1, I was looking for something a bit smaller (mostly narrower) to try out. I had originally been set on purchasing the X2V2 and was trying to decide between which of the two sizes worked best for me...I left with the X2H size 1 - since I have a similar grip to Zy, where my pinky rests towards the rear of the mouse, and the wider base flare caught my pinky perfectly. Additionally, I don't feel the hump location, as it is shifted so far away from my palm due to my hand size. Pulsar also offers a 30 day return policy, so take a shot with a smaller size if you're looking for that!

  • @JaimeRosario884
    @JaimeRosario884 11 днів тому

    I would like to see an MZ1 wireless with a coating like the Lamzu Atlantis or the X2V2, and with no holes. I really like the shape, but my fingers fall in different spots than the areas without holes, and it gets slippery after a few minutes of playing. I might be able to paint it or something. I know the chances of that being released are low, so I might get a 3d printer and make it myself.

  • @user-bv3qt2jt2v
    @user-bv3qt2jt2v 11 днів тому

    i would like to see quake 4 sequal.

  • @ahuman8711
    @ahuman8711 11 днів тому

    I am still using g502 to play fps

  • @craxhax6751
    @craxhax6751 12 днів тому

    just the video I needed, thanks man

  • @michelebinetti9256
    @michelebinetti9256 12 днів тому

    but tbh i miss your videos. it was such a good guidance for my next mice to buy. maybe im just getting old now but youre the best mice reviewer

  • @viggowhite760
    @viggowhite760 12 днів тому

    Really shit 🤷

  • @icaruswind8751
    @icaruswind8751 12 днів тому

    Anyway you can help us small handed individuals

  • @deanheylen
    @deanheylen 13 днів тому

    As a left-handed gamer/user of a Razer Abyssus for many, many years, this is going to be my next mouse!

  • @levijonathansix
    @levijonathansix 13 днів тому

    FinalMouse are criminally bad with their mouse wheels. Kind of sad to see that’s still an issue. I’ve had an Ultralight and an Air58 with MW issues. The ultralight stopped working altogether and the Air58 somehow lost contact with the track and just freespun. Either way they don’t feel good. Not to mention the Air58 was a gift and I didn’t have the receipt for it so they refused to honor any repairs. Pretty terrible customer support from a company who historically does limited drops with no way to buy replacements.

    • @RocketJumpNinja
      @RocketJumpNinja 13 днів тому

      They're working on improving the wheels further. Would have to look into the warranty issue, I've heard their support is quite good though...

  • @leXeZzlD3m0
    @leXeZzlD3m0 14 днів тому

    i just want the g pro wireless with an infinite scroll wheel like the g502. Mousewheels are so neglected imo

  • @heuksalman
    @heuksalman 14 днів тому

    Why don’t you compare your own mouse? Is your mouse perfect for you yet?

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 14 днів тому

    No Endgame Gear OP1 8K? That's the best one I've found so far, so I got it a few days ago. Great mouse made of quality components with no-nonsense design and software interface. More substance than style.

    • @AlphaSnowLion
      @AlphaSnowLion 4 дні тому

      How do you like the main clicks, side buttons and scroll wheel? Are they heavy, mushy or anything? I'm thinking about getting one too

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 3 дні тому

      @@AlphaSnowLion Left and right mouse buttons feel nice, just like the side buttons. But the scrolling wheel clicks are flimsy.

  • @Teh-Penguin
    @Teh-Penguin 14 днів тому

    4 years later, the Viper Ultimate still loses connection... they never fixed it sadly.

    • @RocketJumpNinja
      @RocketJumpNinja 13 днів тому

      Really? I don't think I've tested it since... gave my copy away a little while ago too, didn't think I'd need it again. I thought they had fixed it with firmware though, I'll need to ask them.

    • @Teh-Penguin
      @Teh-Penguin 13 днів тому

      @@RocketJumpNinja Maybe my 2.4GHz spectrum is just convoluted and that's why. But I have a logitech mouse and keyboard, both wireless, that do not suffer from this. Also: it's way longer than 50ms for me, a solid second that I suddenly can't move. It happens very rarely, like every few days or so, which makes it difficult to test. I also only game on the Viper, while using the logitech for everything else so once again even less test data. BUT! I ordered a new one a week ago, getting tired of the timeouts and... it lost connection in the same manner on the 2nd day of use. That's why I came to this video to see if you had noticed something like this. Firmware up to date.

    • @Teh-Penguin
      @Teh-Penguin 9 днів тому

      @@RocketJumpNinja Just had it cut out again today. I moved the receiver to be 50cm from the mouse, did not help. It cut out for 1-2s.

  • @hotelious
    @hotelious 14 днів тому

    Would love to see a G302 inspired wireless mouse :-)

  • @LowEndPCGamer100
    @LowEndPCGamer100 15 днів тому

    only ever played this with bots, but its still my favorite way to play quake, the grapple never gets old

  • @xrosshair26
    @xrosshair26 15 днів тому

    hey bro i know it's late to ask this but what do you think should I buy; Logitech g102 or Logitech g203 2nd gen??

  • @robjdrum
    @robjdrum 15 днів тому

    Inverted since '93.

  • @Condred
    @Condred 15 днів тому

    RIP Invasion mode

  • @Inderkumar-sd3ey
    @Inderkumar-sd3ey 15 днів тому

    Do you still recommend this monitor over gigabyte m27qx ???

  • @exaltedcelestial80
    @exaltedcelestial80 15 днів тому

    bought it for about 50 usd in 2024

  • @liltzioni6108
    @liltzioni6108 16 днів тому

    I had the abyssus v2 for a long time and its the best mouse I ever owned! I got the logitech pro wireless a few months ago bc of similar weight and shape but i just didnt have the same feel... I'm looking for the most similar mouse to the abyssus v2 so if someone can recommend I'll appriciate it!